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Mesa Roadrunner Senior Regional - District 17
7:30 ♦ Evening Side Game Series 3 of 5
Thursday, April 10, 2014

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Event: THU EVE SIDE GAME SERIES

Session: Thu Eve 3of5

Movement: ONE WINNER

Date: April 10, 2014

Rating: Regional

Section: I

Tournament: MESA SENIOR REGIONAL

Sanction: RS1404012

Event Code: EVSS

MP Limits:

Average: 48

Top: 4

Field strength: Mean: 4113 MP
Geomean: 948 MP
(based on 22 players)

Section I     - Pairs in strats: A=11 / B=9 / C=6

Group the Results

 

Overall

 

Section

 

 

Name

Name

Dir

No

Flt

A

B

C

Total

Carry

A

B

C

Score

Result

Points

1

Shyla McGill

Nancy Hollyfield

7

C

1

1

1

58.29

0.00

1

1

1

58.29

60.72

1.94

2

Nancy Abrams

Mark Lair

6

A

2

-

-

56.50

0.00

2

-

-

56.50

58.85

1.46

3

Mary Redding

Sheila Shapiro

1

C

3

2

2

53.71

0.00

3

2

2

53.71

55.95

1.37

4

M Owen Lasker

Cheryl Pehoushek

11

B

4

3

-

50.86

0.00

4

3

-

50.86

52.98

1.02

5

Rosemary Getsie

Sharon Herchenroeder

9

C

-

4

-

48.57

0.00

-

4

-

48.57

50.59

0.77

6

Camille Villeneuve

Carol Lombardino

4

B

-

-

-

48.50

0.00

-

-

-

48.50

50.52

7

Colin Hemsley

Anne Dudman

5

C

-

-

-

46.29

0.00

-

-

-

46.29

48.22

8

Earl Knipfel

Hannah Moon

10

A

-

-

-

42.86

0.00

-

-

-

42.86

44.65

9

Elizabeth Thornton

Donna Grant

8

C

-

-

-

41.00

0.00

-

-

-

41.00

42.71

10

Gary Delestine

Shirley Gibson

12

C

-

-

-

40.57

0.00

-

-

-

40.57

42.26

11

Rodney Bias

Clair Kretschmann

3

B

-

-

-

40.57

0.00

-

-

-

40.57

42.26

11 pairs - Pairs in strats: A=11 / B=9 / C=6


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1 875
AKQ4
T94
754

Dlr: North
Vul: None

K6
J65
KQ5
QT963
AQJ92
2
J87
KJ82
T43
T9873
A632
A
9
1112
8

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

3

7

8

3

7

South

3

7

8

3

7

East

10

5

5

9

6

West

10

6

5

9

6

LoTT: 18 - 18 = 0
Par: -140 3S-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

50

 

4.00

0.00

5

E

-1

-

10-

4-

 

130

2.50

1.50

4

W

4

-

6-

5-

 

130

2.50

1.50

4

E

4

-

7-

11-

 

150

1.00

3.00

3

E

5

-1

3-

8-

 

170

0.00

4.00

3

E

4

-1

12-

1-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

2 JT964
KT84
Q5
Q6

Dlr: East 
Vul: N-S

87
65
KJ9874
A98
AQ532
AJ2
T
J432
K
Q973
A632
KT75
8
812
12

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

6

5

8

6

7

South

6

5

8

6

7

East

5

7

4

6

5

West

5

7

4

6

5

LoTT: 15 - 15 = 0
Par: 110 2H-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

800

 

4.00

0.00

3N*

W

-4

-

7-

11-

500

 

2.50

1.50

3*

E

-3

-

6-

5-

500

 

2.50

1.50

3N*

W

-3

-1

3-

8-

100

 

1.00

3.00

2

W

-2

+1

10-

4-

50

 

0.00

4.00

3

E

-1

-3

12-

1-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

3 985
K9
KT93
J654

Dlr: South
Vul: E-W

J63
5
AQ8652
AQT
KQ2
AJT7432
-
K83
AT74
Q86
J74
972
7
1313
7

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

4

4

2

4

3

South

4

4

2

4

3

East

9

9

11

9

9

West

9

9

11

9

10

LoTT: 15 - 15 = 0
Par: -650 5H-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

500

 

4.00

0.00

3N*

E

-2

+2

6-

5-

 

650

2.00

2.00

4

E

5

-

3-

8-

 

650

2.00

2.00

4

E

5

-

10-

4-

 

650

2.00

2.00

4

E

5

-

7-

11-

 

660

0.00

4.00

3N

E

5

-2

12-

1-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

4 3
KQT987
A6
JT43

Dlr: West
Vul: Both

KQT764
AJ3
8
A85
AJ95
4
J972
K976
82
652
KQT543
Q2
10
149
7

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

3

7

8

2

4

South

3

7

8

2

4

East

8

5

4

11

7

West

8

5

5

11

7

LoTT: 19 - 19 = 0
Par: -650 5S-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

100

 

4.00

0.00

6

W

-1

-

7-

6-

 

650

1.50

2.50

4

W

5

-

11-

8-

 

650

1.50

2.50

4

W

5

-

4-

1-

 

650

1.50

2.50

4

W

5

-

9-

3-

 

650

1.50

2.50

5

W

5

-

10-

5-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

5 J97
6543
T873
T9

Dlr: North
Vul: N-S

AT5
KT2
A654
A84
82
AQ87
Q2
KJ762
KQ643
J9
KJ9
Q53
1
1512
12

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

2

4

2

6

2

South

2

4

2

6

2

East

11

8

11

7

11

West

11

8

11

7

11

LoTT: 17 - 16 = 1
Par: -460 5N-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

100

 

4.00

0.00

3N

W

-2

+4

10-

5-

50

 

2.50

1.50

3N

W

-1

+3

7-

6-

50

 

2.50

1.50

3N

W

-1

+3

9-

3-

 

460

0.50

3.50

3N

W

5

-

11-

8-

 

460

0.50

3.50

3N

W

5

-

4-

1-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

6 63
KJ32
Q87
AT53

Dlr: East 
Vul: E-W

75
T94
52
QJ9742
AJ9
AQ7
AKT964
K
KQT842
865
J3
86
10
321
6

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

2

4

4

6

5

South

2

4

4

6

4

East

10

8

8

7

8

West

10

8

8

7

8

LoTT: 14 - 16 = -2
Par: -130 4C-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

100

 

3.50

0.50

3

E

-1

-

11-

8-

100

 

3.50

0.50

3N

E

-1

-

7-

6-

 

50

2.00

2.00

2

S

-1

+1

10-

5-

 

110

1.00

3.00

3

E

3

-1

4-

1-

 

600

0.00

4.00

3N

E

3

-1

9-

3-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

7 J9752
3
AKQ7
932

Dlr: South
Vul: Both

T643
J
8432
JT84
Q
K97642
T965
75
AK8
AQT85
J
AKQ6
10
25
23

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

12

12

10

13

13

South

12

12

10

13

13

East

1

1

3

0

0

West

1

1

2

0

0

LoTT: 14 - 16 = -2
Par: 2220 7N-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

1460

 

4.00

0.00

6

N

7

-

12-

3-

720

 

2.50

1.50

3N

S

7

-

10-

6-

720

 

2.50

1.50

3N

S

7

-

11-

1-

690

 

1.00

3.00

3N

N

6

-1

9-

4-

650

 

0.00

4.00

4

N

5

-2

8-

7-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

8 AK94
86
Q3
KT943

Dlr: West
Vul: None

T765
JT732
K87
5
Q8
A5
JT9
AQ8762
J32
KQ94
A6542
J
12
413
11

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

7

8

8

8

9

South

7

8

7

8

9

East

6

5

5

5

4

West

6

5

5

5

4

LoTT: 14 - 14 = 0
Par: 400 3N-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

400

 

4.00

0.00

3N

N

3

-

11-

1-

150

 

2.50

1.50

2N

N

3

-

12-

3-

150

 

2.50

1.50

2N

N

3

-

9-

4-

 

100

0.50

3.50

2

S

-2

-1

10-

6-

 

100

0.50

3.50

3

S

-2

-1

8-

7-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

9 J82
9
AKQ8
AK872

Dlr: North
Vul: E-W

K9753
A62
T974
Q
AQT4
K4
652
JT93
6
QJT8753
J3
654
17
910
4

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

9

6

9

5

6

South

9

6

9

5

6

East

4

6

3

8

7

West

4

6

3

8

7

LoTT: 17 - 17 = 0
Par: 140 3H-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

420

 

4.00

0.00

4

S

4

+1

9-

4-

100

 

3.00

1.00

3

E

-1

-

12-

3-

 

100

2.00

2.00

4

S

-2

-1

11-

1-

 

140

1.00

3.00

3

W

3

-1

10-

6-

 

200

0.00

4.00

3

N

-4

-1

8-

7-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

10 A53
75
A987
KQJ5

Dlr: East 
Vul: Both

9
KQ943
K652
982
J862
AJ6
QT4
764
KQT74
T82
J3
AT3
14
88
10

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

10

7

6

10

8

South

10

7

6

10

8

East

3

6

7

3

3

West

3

6

7

3

3

LoTT: 17 - 16 = 1
Par: 620 4S-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

650

 

4.00

0.00

4

S

5

+1

6-

3-

200

 

3.00

1.00

2

S

5

+1

1-

8-

170

 

1.00

3.00

2

S

4

-

5-

9-

170

 

1.00

3.00

2

S

4

-

10-

7-

170

 

1.00

3.00

2

S

4

-

12-

4-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

11 -
KT65
JT74
KJ832

Dlr: South
Vul: None

Q4
A8743
K962
A6
AKT98762
92
Q53
-
J53
QJ
A8
QT9754
8
139
10

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

10

4

5

1

1

South

10

6

5

1

1

East

2

7

8

12

10

West

2

7

8

12

10

LoTT: 22 - 21 = 1
Par: -500 7C*-NS-3

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

800

 

4.00

0.00

5*

W

-4

+1

6-

3-

50

 

3.00

1.00

6

E

-1

+1

10-

7-

 

480

1.50

2.50

4

E

6

-

5-

9-

 

480

1.50

2.50

5

E

6

-

12-

4-

 

790

0.00

4.00

4*

E

6

-

1-

8-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

12 AQJ8
KQ87
K6
QT7

Dlr: West
Vul: N-S

KT76
AJ42
753
95
932
T965
AQ9
832
54
3
JT842
AKJ64
17
86
9

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

10

10

7

9

10

South

10

10

7

9

10

East

2

3

5

4

3

West

2

3

5

4

3

LoTT: 15 - 16 = -1
Par: 630 4N-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

630

 

3.50

0.50

3N

N

4

-

5-

9-

630

 

3.50

0.50

3N

N

4

-

6-

3-

600

 

1.50

2.50

3N

N

3

-1

10-

7-

600

 

1.50

2.50

3N

N

3

-1

12-

4-

150

 

0.00

4.00

3

N

5

+1

1-

8-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

13 A98
982
Q753
732

Dlr: North
Vul: Both

Q4
AQJ65
A94
984
KJT72
73
J2
JT65
653
KT4
KT86
AKQ
6
136
15

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

4

7

6

4

6

South

5

7

6

5

7

East

8

5

7

8

6

West

8

5

7

8

6

LoTT: 15 - 15 = 0
Par: -110 2S-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

200

 

4.00

0.00

1N

W

-2

+1

12-

5-

120

 

3.00

1.00

1N

S

2

+1

6-

9-

100

 

2.00

2.00

2

W

-1

-

11-

3-

90

 

1.00

3.00

2

S

2

+1

7-

4-

 

110

0.00

4.00

2

W

2

-1

8-

10-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

14 QT
QJT
J72
AQJ86

Dlr: East 
Vul: None

J9532
A95
4
K753
K864
K732
KQ96
T
A7
864
AT853
942
13
811
8

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

9

9

6

4

9

South

9

9

6

4

9

East

3

4

6

9

3

West

4

4

7

9

3

LoTT: 18 - 17 = 1
Par: 100 4S*-EW-1

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

150

 

3.50

0.50

2N

S

3

-

6-

9-

150

 

3.50

0.50

4

W

-3

+2

11-

3-

120

 

2.00

2.00

1N

N

2

-1

12-

5-

50

 

0.50

3.50

3

W

-1

+1

7-

4-

50

 

0.50

3.50

3

W

-1

+1

8-

10-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

15 KJ87
AK87
Q3
964

Dlr: South
Vul: N-S

A64
T95432
AK
T5
95
6
JT8752
AJ87
QT32
QJ
964
KQ32
13
116
10

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

6

4

6

8

5

South

6

4

6

8

5

East

6

9

7

4

5

West

6

9

7

4

5

LoTT: 17 - 16 = 1
Par: -110 3D-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

140

 

4.00

0.00

3

N

3

+1

11-

3-

110

 

3.00

1.00

2

N

2

-

8-

10-

100

 

1.50

2.50

2

W

-2

+1

7-

4-

100

 

1.50

2.50

2

W

-2

+1

12-

5-

50

 

0.00

4.00

2

W

-1

-

6-

9-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

16 K
KJT984
K42
KQ8

Dlr: West
Vul: E-W

AT964
65
J
J7543
QJ7
732
AT9853
T
8532
AQ
Q76
A962
15
67
12

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

8

7

10

5

7

South

8

7

10

5

7

East

5

6

3

7

4

West

5

6

3

7

4

LoTT: 17 - 16 = 1
Par: 420 4H-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

460

 

4.00

0.00

3N

S

5

+4

1-

10-

420

 

2.50

1.50

4

N

4

-

9-

7-

420

 

2.50

1.50

4

N

4

-

12-

6-

 

50

1.00

3.00

5

N

-1

-

4-

11-

 

100

0.00

4.00

4

N

-2

-2

8-

5-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

17 865
862
T962
A82

Dlr: North
Vul: None

A
54
J875
QJT964
Q3
KQT97
AKQ4
K3
KJT9742
AJ3
3
75
4
819
9

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

2

2

3

9

3

South

2

2

3

9

3

East

10

11

10

4

5

West

10

11

10

4

5

LoTT: 20 - 18 = 2
Par: -300 5S*-NS-2

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

 

100

4.00

0.00

4*

S

-1

-

4-

11-

 

150

3.00

1.00

4

E

5

-

9-

7-

 

400

1.00

3.00

5

E

5

-

8-

5-

 

400

1.00

3.00

5

E

5

-

1-

10-

 

400

1.00

3.00

5

W

5

-1

12-

6-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

18 Q98732
86
3
K764

Dlr: East 
Vul: N-S

AK64
943
A964
J5
JT
AQT75
KJT
Q32
5
KJ2
Q8752
AT98
5
1213
10

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

8

5

4

7

5

South

8

5

4

7

5

East

5

7

9

6

8

West

5

7

9

6

8

LoTT: 17 - 16 = 1
Par: -140 3H-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

250

 

4.00

0.00

4

E

-5

+4

1-

10-

50

 

1.50

2.50

4

E

-1

-

8-

5-

50

 

1.50

2.50

4

E

-1

-

9-

7-

50

 

1.50

2.50

4

E

-1

-

4-

11-

50

 

1.50

2.50

4

E

-1

-

12-

6-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

19 K2
AQ
QJT72
QJT5

Dlr: South
Vul: E-W

963
T
965
K97642
AQT854
842
AK3
3
J7
KJ97653
84
A8
15
313
9

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

5

7

9

3

9

South

5

6

8

3

5

East

8

6

3

9

4

West

8

6

3

9

4

LoTT: 18 - 18 = 0
Par: 200 4S*-EW-1

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

400

 

4.00

0.00

3N

N

3

-

5-

11-

100

 

3.00

1.00

4

E

-1

-

12-

7-

 

50

2.00

2.00

4

S

-1

+1

9-

8-

 

140

1.00

3.00

3

E

3

-

1-

6-

 

300

0.00

4.00

4*

S

-2

-

4-

3-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

20 97
532
AJT98
J53

Dlr: West
Vul: Both

3
K984
76432
A92
AKQJT642
QJT6
-
6
85
A7
KQ5
KQT874
6
713
14

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

9

9

1

1

4

South

9

9

1

1

4

East

3

4

12

12

7

West

3

4

12

12

7

LoTT: 21 - 18 = 3
Par: -1100 7D*-NS-4/7C*-NS-4

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

 

680

2.00

2.00

4

E

6

-

4-

3-

 

680

2.00

2.00

4

E

6

-

1-

6-

 

680

2.00

2.00

4

E

6

-

9-

8-

 

680

2.00

2.00

4

E

6

-

5-

11-

 

680

2.00

2.00

4

E

6

-

12-

7-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

21 KJT432
T
AK63
53

Dlr: North
Vul: N-S

6
J9873
QJT2
A74
AQ8
542
754
KJT8
975
AKQ6
98
Q962
11
810
11

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

6

6

6

9

6

South

6

6

6

9

6

East

6

7

7

2

5

West

6

7

7

2

5

LoTT: 16 - 17 = -1
Par: 140 3S-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

620

 

3.50

0.50

4

N

4

+1

4-

3-

620

 

3.50

0.50

4

N

4

+1

9-

8-

Pass

2.00

2.00

Pass Out 

-

5-

11-

 

100

0.50

3.50

4

N

-1

-

1-

6-

 

100

0.50

3.50

5

N

-1

+1

12-

7-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

22 K43
AKT85
-
KJ872

Dlr: East 
Vul: E-W

AT
97
AKJ9832
T6
98762
3
QT764
Q4
QJ5
QJ642
5
A953
14
124
10

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

12

4

12

6

5

South

12

4

12

6

5

East

1

9

1

6

3

West

1

9

1

6

3

LoTT: 21 - 22 = -1
Par: 980 6H-NS

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

920

 

4.00

0.00

6

S

6

-

3-

10-

480

 

2.00

2.00

4

N

6

-

5-

4-

480

 

2.00

2.00

5

N

6

-

6-

11-

480

 

2.00

2.00

4

S

6

-

12-

8-

450

 

0.00

4.00

4

N

5

-1

1-

9-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

23 98532
A75
4
J875

Dlr: South
Vul: Both

AJ6
K9864
85
AQ3
4
QT32
AQ92
K642
KQT7
J
KJT763
T9
5
1411
10

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

3

6

2

8

3

South

3

6

2

8

3

East

9

7

11

5

10

West

9

7

11

5

10

LoTT: 19 - 18 = 1
Par: -650 5H-EW

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

100

 

4.00

0.00

5

W

-1

+1

3-

10-

 

110

3.00

1.00

3

E

3

-

1-

9-

 

620

1.50

2.50

4

W

4

+1

6-

11-

 

620

1.50

2.50

4

W

4

+1

12-

8-

 

650

0.00

4.00

4

W

5

-

5-

4-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.

24 Q98654
T
AT82
72

Dlr: West
Vul: None

7
J865
9754
JT64
AKJ2
AK732
QJ3
5
T3
Q94
K6
AKQ983
6
218
14

Double Dummy Makes

 

NT

North

8

6

4

8

6

South

8

6

4

8

6

East

4

7

9

5

6

West

4

7

9

5

6

LoTT: 17 - 17 = 0
Par: -100 3S*-NS-1/3C*-NS-1

N-S

E-W

N-S

E-W

Contract

ETF

N-S

E-W

150

 

4.00

0.00

5

E

-3

+1

1-

9-

100

 

3.00

1.00

4

E

-2

+1

5-

4-

50

 

2.00

2.00

4

E

-1

-

3-

10-

 

300

0.50

3.50

4*

N

-2

-

6-

11-

 

300

0.50

3.50

4*

N

-2

-

12-

8-

ETF: Extra Trick Factor: Number of tricks that N-S achieved relative to the Double Dummy expectations.